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12/12 - I saw a FOX news report tonight on facebook and myspace and must say that they should have taken a few pointers from you. Not only was your presentation much more intertaining, but it was more accurate. The newscast said that there was a high school facebook in the works. Again, your presentation was outstanding! I will be going over the actual wiki in more detail over the next few days, but I am sure it will be as good as the presentation. You were great group.

 

11/17 - One of your group members needs to go in and update the WikiGroupProjects page on the class wiki.

 

Also, this conversation came up over a listserv that I am on (EDTECH@H-NET.MSU.EDU) and I thought you might find it interesting.

Email 1:

>From: Bob Turba

>>

>> I'm certain many of you have students who have a page on myspace.com<http://myspace.com>or

>> similar sites. One of my students, unknown at this time, has put up a page

>> for my principal. It is not harmful, but it is scary for her nonetheless.

>> Has anyone had any problems with students and the sites they create as it

>> relates to the school? If so, what action has been taken? Is there any

>> direct intervention with the owners of myspace.com <http://myspace.com> to

>> close the type of page

>> that I mentioned - one that is not the person and obviously created for

>> less

>> than prurient reasons? My personal opinion is to let it ride and it will

>> die

>> a natural death, but that's easy for me to say, I'm not the one with a

>> site

>> about me out there.

>> Any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Bob Turba

>> Stanton College Preparatory School

>> www.stantoncollegeprep.org <http://www.stantoncollegeprep.org>

>> CyberGuidance at http://cyberguidance.net

 

Email 2:

From: Jennifer Wagner

 

Good Morning --

 

First off -- let me clarify first that I am livid with

myspace.com<http://myspace.com>and the lack of professionalism and

protection they offer our kids.

 

First off -- how old are your students?? My space says "You further

represent and warrant that you are 14 years of age or older and that your

use of the MySpace.com shall not violate any applicable law or regulation"

however, I know that several students are under that age and were able to

sign up quite easily.

 

They also say "According to the TOS, if a user is under 18 and

misrepresenting their age, the account may be deleted. If you have sighted a

user under 14 years of age on MySpace.com, please contact

us<http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=misc.contactInput&amp;amp;primarySubject=2&amp;amp;secondarySubject=10>with

the URL or friend ID number and we will remove it." however (again)

students can easily go in and create a new account. There doesn't seem to be

any permanent banning -- such as ISP blocking.

 

In a perfect world -- -- I wish there were 2 levels with

myspace.com<http://myspace.com>.

Or perhaps even more. The main problem I fell with

myspace.com<http://myspace.com>is that there is no filtering at all

involved. With a single click of a

button, a 14 year old can suddenly be on a 36 year old person's page -- and

perhaps that person has posted pictures or comments not suitable for a 14

year old.

 

I would encourage you to first -- if you haven't already -- create an

account and go scouting for references to your school and your principal. I

would also urge you to send home a letter immediately to parents warning

them of myspace.com <http://myspace.com> -- I found a very good article that

you can print out at -- http://www.wiredsafety.org/internet101/blogs.html

 

It can be considered harassment if the student made any type of derogatory

comments --- and if she posted the principal's name and school -- he could

file charges if he feels his character was threatened in any way.

 

I would like to start a petition to have myspace.com

<http://myspace.com>shut down. However, I am unsure of what good it

would do.

 

 

One action that you can take is -- if the student is under 14 or

misrepresenting their age -- you can write myspace.com

<http://myspace.com>to have the page removed.

 

My two cents --

I will stop the rant now --

Enjoy your day!

Jennifer Wagner

 

Email 3:

From: Danny Lee

 

Any reputable company maintains at least these two email addresses to

deal with such issues: "abuse@" normally deals with violations

of their terms of service etc. and "security@" normally deals

with issues such as phishing attempts, stolen passwords etc. Most

domains used to include "postmaster@" as a monitored catch-all

email - but I've noticed a growing number of companies are no longer

providing any humans on the end of that one; you just get a canned

response that you should go to their website or similar message.

 

A quick review of myspace.com's terms and conditions also shows a

specific email address, privacy@myspace.com, that deals with questions

about their privacy policy.

 

I would send an email explaining the situation to abuse@myspace.com, cc:

to privacy@myspace.com

 

--Danny

 

Danny Lee

Knowledge Management Specialist,

University of New Mexico

 

 

11/19 - Let me know if these emails aren't helpful, but here are some more emails about MySpace from the listserv.

 

email 1-

"From: Nancy Willard

 

You might want to save this message -- you will likely need it.

 

Below are the most relevant provisions of the MySpace terms of use. You can

also find this on their web site.

 

I am in the final stages of a book on Cyberbullying and Cyberthreats. It

will be published by January, possibly before. I am also working on student

curriculum.

 

This weekend I received an email from a counselor asking for guidance on a

MySpace problem. Late Thursday, a mother brought her a MySpace blog where a

13 year old boy was describing, in explicit detail, his sexual interactions

with an 18 year old male. My guidance was: call the police. They,

unfortunately asked, "What is a blog?" The divorced parents are trying to

deal with the situation. But my other advice was to prepare for major

trouble. Sure enough, all of the students at school now about this. How to

destroy your life in a blog. Students do not seem to understand that

whatever they post is totally public!

 

Here are the pertinent terms:

 

Content Posted on the Site.

 

a. You understand and agree that MySpace.com may review and delete any

content, messages, MySpace.com Messenger messages, photos or profiles

(collectively, "Content") that in the sole judgment of MySpace.com violate

this Agreement or which may be offensive, illegal or violate the rights,

harm, or threaten the safety of any Member.

 

b. You are solely responsible for the Content that you publish or display

(hereinafter, "post") on the Service or any material or information that you

transmit to other Members.

c. Å 

 

d. The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or

prohibited on the Website. MySpace.com reserves the right to investigate and

take appropriate legal action in its sole discretion against anyone who

violates this provision, including without limitation, removing the

offending communication from the Service and terminating the membership of

such violators. Prohibited Content includes Content that: i. is patently

offensive and promotes racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind

against any group or individual; ii. harasses or advocates harassment of

another person; iii. involves the transmission of "junk mail", "chain

letters," or unsolicited mass mailing or "spamming"; iv. promotes

information that you know is false or misleading or promotes illegal

activities or conduct that is abusive, threatening, obscene, defamatory or

libelous; v. promotes an illegal or unauthorized copy of another person's

copyrighted work, such as providing pirated computer programs or links to

them, providing information to circumvent manufacture-installed copy-protect

devices, or providing pirated music or links to pirated music files; vi.

contains restricted or password only access pages or hidden pages or images

(those not linked to or from another accessible page); vii. provides

material that exploits people under the age of 18 in a sexual or violent

manner, or solicits personal information from anyone under 18; viii.

provides instructional information about illegal activities such as making

or buying illegal weapons, violating someone's privacy, or providing or

creating computer viruses; ix. solicits passwords or personal identifying

information for commercial or unlawful purposes from other users; or x.

involves commercial activities and/or sales without our prior written

consent such as contests, sweepstakes, barter, advertising, or pyramid

schemes.

 

e. You must use the Service in a manner consistent with any and all

applicable laws and regulations.

 

f. You may not include in your Member profile any telephone numbers, street

addresses, last names, URLs or email addresses.

 

g. Å  Although MySpace.com cannot monitor the conduct of its Members off the

Website, it is also a violation of these rules to use any information

obtained from the Service in order to harass, abuse, or harm another person,

or in order to contact, advertise to, solicit, or sell to any Member without

their prior explicit consent. In order to protect our Members from such

advertising or solicitation, MySpace.com reserves the right to restrict the

number of emails which a Member may send to other Members in any 24-hour

period to a number which MySpace.com deems appropriate in its sole

discretion.

 

h. Å 

 

i. You may not attempt to impersonate another user or person who is not a

member of MySpace.com

 

(This rule addresses the problem presented by the student impersonating the

principal.)

 

Nancy

 

 

-- Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D. Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use http://csriu.org nwillard@csriu.org"

 

email 2

"From: Tom Shuman

 

Bob,

 

Take a look at the following article. To find more do a google search

for Pope John myspace. They are all over place.

 

http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051024/NEWS01/510240324

 

Tom Shuman

Lafayette Twp School

Lafayette, NJ"

 

email 3 -

"From: Randy Edwards

 

Looking at this issue, what do we really have?

 

We have yet-another-free-webspace .COM site who is doing a poor job in

policing kids who fake their ages. The law passed by Congress which

regulates the young teen/privacy issue was doomed before the ink was dry on

the paper. The Internet is now a global phenomenon. Given the wanton greed

that permeates the 'net, it's rapidly devolving into a sewer. Now we can

receive phishing scam spams from anywhere in the world, not just Nigeria.

 

In its present form, the Internet can't be regulated or maintained, and

there are solid reasons why it shouldn't. I maintain servers in Europe --

are those machines under American law or EU law? Does my porn site1 have

to conform to the "community standards" of someplace in the Bible Belt, USA,

or to Hanover, Germany where its server is located? If I register my domain

name with a company in India does that make my domain an Indian domain? How

can US laws be enforced on a global Internet? Answer: They can't.

 

The fact that kids are lying about their ages shouldn't surprise anyone who

has been to a bar or a convenience store on a Saturday night. The fact that

there are huge numbers of poorly maintained web sites shouldn't be a surprise

to anyone who witnessed the original privatization of the Internet and

resulting growth of the .COM sector, or to anyone who lived through the

late-90s .COM boom/bust.

 

> I would encourage you to first -- if you haven't already -- create an

> account and go scouting for references to your school and your principal.

 

Now that sounds like a black hole for time. How many MySpace.com clones

are there out there? How soon after MySpace.com becomes "uncool" will some

other new company attract the attention of disgruntled students?

 

> I would like to start a petition to have myspace.com

> <http://myspace.com>shut down. However, I am unsure of what good it

> would do.

 

On what grounds? That some teenager fooled them into believing s/he was 18

and trashed his teacher/principal -- and that MySpace.com did not react

quickly enough? Good luck waging that battle.

 

Some things are best ignored, especially when they happen out of the

jurisdiction of a school, and in a global medium where anyone can pretend to

be anyone else.

Regards,

 

Randy

 

Footnotes: 1. Gimme a break; I don't run porn site(s), this is just an

example. Get your mind out of the gutter. :-)

 

--

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the

Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons

ever devised." -- No doubt?! George W. Bush, lying to the American people, in

a speech from the White House, March 17, 2003."

 

 

11/14 - You may want to look into Sherry Turkle's book Life on the Screen: Identity in the Age of the Internet. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1995. She is a social pyschologist that examines the effect of the digital world on the individual's sense of identity. Since there isn't an abundance of things written on mySpace and Facebook (though there is a good deal in the Chronicle of Higher Education which is a journal publication you can access from our library), these are the sorts of research avenues that you will need to look into. I am not as familiar with this text, but you may also want to check out Cybersociety: Computer-Mediated Communication and Community Ed. by S.G. Jones.

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